concerns about 1200 engine (experiences and opinions needed)

[72degrees]

Well, impetuous fool that I am, I just went and PX'd the Shiver for a Corsaro.

Apparently it needed a headlight relay to get a fresh MoT, so I hope a good quality replacement was used. Is there a link available to a service manual PDF anywhere? Sounds as if I need to get familiar with how to get at the electrical gremlin areas. I can reciprocate with one for pretty much any 90's Gilera.

Presumably oil filters are available now MM are back in production. Where's the best place to get them?

It came with a spare red covered seat. What's that all about - other than bling? I might investigate having it recovered in black and converted to a thinner gel sit upon to lower things a bit, though I'm happy to find that because the seat is narrow at the front getting feet down sufficiently to feel secure at a standstill isn't too bad at all.

Now investigating a Baglux universal harness in hopes that I can continue to use the Baglux Tecra bag that I first got for the Voxan. Then probably a Ventura carrier system and bag - got to put the spare undercrackers for the Morano raid somewhere.

[tassymorini]

Search the forum mate i did see a pdf but cant remembe which post ,dont be fooled into thinking the ecu pin numbers are 100% correct just because it‘s a genuine manual doesnt mean it‘s right eg :pin m5 is actualy pin v5 temp sensor imput.

[corsaro chris]

Pete;

There are copies of the service manual about - let me know if you can't find one on-line... And get the bike out on the road, you can always wash it down afterwards!

CC

[72degrees]

Manual sorted. Thanks to a kind soul.

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[Guvo]

The regulator issue is common to a lot of bikes and is caused by poor connections causing a high resistance at the regulator/rectifier which result in them burning out under load.
A simple fix is to remove the connectors from the block and hard wire (solder) them together, heat shrinking all the cables in the process. This is a permanent fix and better than the factory solution.

Downside is if the reg/rec ever fails then it needs to be cut and shut again, but it's no biggie for peace of mind.
I did this mod to mine soon after getting it and also moved the reg/rec to the underside of the bike to assist with cooling as per the below guide.

For those who will be along to tell me that you should never use soldered joints on a vehicle , you pays yer money etc. and in this instance it is a good way to ensure minimum resistance at the joints.

http://www.1200bandit.de/Moto_Morini_Co ... rumbau.htm

Nice one Dave: I have a feeling this just happened to me.When they fail everything stops fast.I will endeavor to Google translate the German to over come the problem to save a few Australian dollars.Conversion charge controller ... and it saves the space under the seat ...

The late Corsaros built (probably only the 2009?) Who got laid the charge controller to the outside. This concern falls away to its cooling, simultaneously creates a nice storage compartment under the seat! So enough to tackle this reason Tag:-)

 

The new location of the charge controller I chose minimally different from what was probably made by Morini, for there sits the (so far as I could bring in the experience) just behind the heat shield. But I wanted to be happy as much as possible to protect against splash water (even if it makes him nothing) and do not necessarily remove the CPU, which would come to a hole then dangerously close ... also is more air around the drum-controller manipulates ...

 

As seen in the pictures, I for one mounting point taken a countersunk screw under the battery, since you can leave bad lie on a screw head the battery (screw later addition also pasted over with frieze). The other screw I, connected like original also, again with the battery ground (negative pole) ("grounded") soldered to cable separately and shortened again.

 

A thicker hole (not the center of the controller, but set back, otherwise too close to the positive pole of the battery as) to run the cables of the controller inside, must be bored ... after soldering the shortened cable should be carefully sealed with silicone back against water and dirt!

 

I have sealed caution, the new mounting hole which passes through the heat protection with silicone ... better safe than sorry!

 

Since the controller is now installed one on the heat shield, need to be fixed on the other side a little, so that the controller does not lie obliquely with me ... an M8 nut is fitted exactly with integrated washer:-)

 

An already finished ...

Because it but yes, among other things went around my storage space, I have the ol 'place of the controller also still the same extended laterally and to the side panels of black plastic partially removed (see small photo to the left). In the end I SO now the Scott-Oiler, a safety vest, a motorcycle first aid kit and my beloved tire repair kit can store (under the bandages) in the "seat compartment" ... a little space for small items would be over, and I eh the lower side panels even with small crust, replacement bulbs and levers for clutch and brake (since I never go without on tour ...) have filled.

 Overall a very worthwhile conversion for me!

[Beveldrive]

The regulator issue is common to a lot of bikes and is caused by poor connections causing a high resistance at the regulator/rectifier which result in them burning out under load.
A simple fix is to remove the connectors from the block and hard wire (solder) them together, heat shrinking all the cables in the process. This is a permanent fix and better than the factory solution.

Downside is if the reg/rec ever fails then it needs to be cut and shut again, but it's no biggie for peace of mind.
I did this mod to mine soon after getting it and also moved the reg/rec to the underside of the bike to assist with cooling as per the below guide.

For those who will be along to tell me that you should never use soldered joints on a vehicle , you pays yer money etc. and in this instance it is a good way to ensure minimum resistance at the joints.

http://www.1200bandit.de/Moto_Morini_Co ... rumbau.htm

After six years of ownership this is the first problem I've had with my Corsaro.
About four weeks ago I got left stranded by the side of the road with what I assumed to be either a dud battery (It was brand new) or a faulty reg/rec. The battery was fine.
I waited three weeks for a new reg/rec to arrive in Australia from England.
It finally got here last Wednesday and I excitedly set about installing it only to find that the four pin connector was totally fried.
I thought I might have trouble finding a replacement connector but the first place I walked in to this afternoon had one on the shelf for less than $4.
A Facebook friend of mine from Milan who also owns a Corsaro Veloce insisted (despite the advice of others) that the best way to fix the problem is to bypass the connector and hard wire it.
Going from the info here it looks like he was right.
I'll have a go at it in the morning 'coz it's Friday night in Australia right now, and I've had too many beers to attempt a soldering job.

[random]

Hello everybody,

I'm a new on this forum because I have never had any Moto Morini. But I'm thinking about buying Corsaro 1200.
I have read a lot on this forum and on the one hand I like this bike so much, but on the other hand I see that these engines (and not only engines) suffered a lot of illnesses..These bikes are quite old nowadays so a lot of experiences can be collected since production started.

So I would like to ask you for some advices before I buy something. I'm thinkinh especially about engine - I have found some informations, that first production years (2005,2006,2007, maybe even newer..?) had problems with valve guides (must be replaced when engine rattles). Then I saw problems with dropped valves (maybe as result of long time rattling engine..?)
I have also find problems with starting (hot or cold), problems with idling and what else can be big problem?

I personally think V2 should be robust and quite reliable, but I'm little scared, because I know that getting parts can be little problem and it can take some time, when something goes wrong. And I wouldn't like to spend summer by waiting for spare parts...

Thank you very much for any experiences and advices.

[random]

Nobody here..?

[Tinker]

I think generally they are a solid engine. If you like it buy it. Maniac motors Germany sell engine parts and are easy to deal with.

[hombre]

Hi, I had a 9 1/2 and did 60000 km on it without any problems, I am now almost on the same mileage with my Scrambler, and replaced the regulator (cheap, it's the same as on some Ducs), headstock bearings and last week two rear wheel bearings. That's all. Great bikes!

[random]

Thank you for your answers.
So do you think that engine problems (for example problems with valve guides) are more exception than rule? Personally I thought that this big V2 engine with timing chains should be robust and bulletproof. But then I have found informations about this problems but don't know if it is quite common problem of these engines or not.
Is there any other spot on these bikes which should be carefully checked during pre-buy inspection?

[hombre]

Maybe the valveguide troubles were only on the first Corsaro's (?). They are now almost 20 years old so most should be sorted by now I reckon.

[random]

Thank you very much for all your help.

[hotballs]

Hello. I have an Avio since 5 years. Its got over 50000kms now and I went to do the big service. Cam chains etc. The engine was absolutely fine. There was zero play on the chain. Under the advise of an old Morini mechanic, he said leave it alone. So i put a new gasket, oil filter and off she went. Just yesterday I have the rectifier problem in the Tuscan hills and bike discharged the battery fully and stopped. But with the constant abuse I give the poor thing, i am genuinely impressed how solid this bike is. The motor is stonkin and strong as an ox. Buy one. Buy it now. nothing to fear. Best bargain ever.

[hombre]

Hello. I have an Avio since 5 years. Its got over 50000kms now and I went to do the big service. Cam chains etc. The engine was absolutely fine. There was zero play on the chain. Under the advise of an old Morini mechanic, he said leave it alone. So i put a new gasket, oil filter and off she went. Just yesterday I have the rectifier problem in the Tuscan hills and bike discharged the battery fully and stopped. But with the constant abuse I give the poor thing, i am genuinely impressed how solid this bike is. The motor is stonkin and strong as an ox. Buy one. Buy it now. nothing to fear. Best bargain ever.

Nice one!
They are pretty much bulletproof it seems