1977 3.5 Sport Restoration

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Re: 1977 3.5 Sport Restoration

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Lovely bike that. I agree about ther brake line move it to the rear of the fork leg. It spoils the lines of the forks in its present position.
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Re: 1977 3.5 Sport Restoration

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It's looking very good Paz! Here's the chrome tank of the 350 Sport at Cadwell that EVGuru mentioned - he just needs to glue the tank badge down properly...

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We tend not to be purists about Morinis, nearly all of which have been modified over their lives, but the general opinion seems to be 'don't do anything that can't be put back to standard later.' Seats, tanks and sidepanels are mostly interchangeable, so find some repro sidepanels to chop around and put the originals in the loft.

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Re: 1977 3.5 Sport Restoration

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MarkB wrote:It's looking very good Paz! Here's the chrome tank of the 350 Sport at Cadwell that EVGuru mentioned - he just needs to glue the tank badge down properly...
Cheers, Mark.
No - he was going so fast it lifted the badge, surely.

Nice looking bike Paz, and as others have said - it's your bike to do what you like with (though best not to do anything that can't be put back to 'standard - unless you start with a mongrel anyway). Just my opinion.
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Re: 1977 3.5 Sport Restoration

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norbert wrote:That looks great, keep on with your dream, that´s the best you can do!!!

Here in Germany one mirror is obligatory (and makes sense!), the second one you only need if the bike is younger than 198?.

One sugestion maybe allowed: I would not guide the "steel"-tube of the frontbrake through that ring of the "rubberholders". It will scrub there! To me the tube looks a little bit too long.
And I would look for some ... where you put yor feet on ... more to the back. That makes riding a Morini much more comfortable :wink:

As far as originality is concerned: This is ought to be a 350T from 1974 (at least the frame :lol: ) I wonder wether I`ll ever finish it :roll:
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Thanks for the advice and duly noted about the brake line. I love your take on the 350 Sport, would you have more pictures of your bike to post?
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Re: 1977 3.5 Sport Restoration

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Some more images of the current work that has been completed. When I purchased the bike I also bought several boxes of spares from various models of 350 Morini. The bike came with the the sport seat which I intend to cover to original design. I also got a seat from a Strada which was in a poor state but perfect for me to be able to take the kids on the back. I have had the Strada seat recovered with real tan leather, see images.

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I also have got back some of the parts that I wanted to fully restore and bring back to original, bearing in mind that I don't want a restored looking bike.

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Clock mounts, back of headlamp and dash light holder.




I noticed that the original sport seat on my bike does not seem to be the same shape as the sport seats that I see around the forum. The following two pictures shows the difference :-

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This seems to be the most common sport seat shape that I see and also seems to be correct for the 1977 year.

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This seat shape is the same as mine but appears to be on an earlier bike.

Can I ask if anyone knows which seat shape is correct for my bike model and also what other information you can offer as to the seat shown in the black and white image?
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Re: 1977 3.5 Sport Restoration

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Ah - the question of 'originality'.... quite suitable for my 700th post on this Forum, possibly.

As far as I can tell the 'bike's seat in the black and white picture is from a 1978 cast wheel model Sport. It would seem to show a much earlier manufactured (which is a world away from registered) Strada - no double drum so not a Sport. The round back hump seems to have run from 1974 (original wire wheel, double drum) through to the first of the cast wheel Sports in 1977. I'd guess that the Sport (colour picture) has had wire wheels retro fitted, as the side panels are 'correct' for '77 production from Italy.

This is referencing the Massimo Clarke book; others will study the 3 1/2 tome by Fabio Ferrario (available from MRC Products) if they are really keen (I almost used another word there). The round back hump is great for solo riding - and your tan leather seat looks - and will work - great for two up riding; the hump at the back will also help the 'pillion feeling secure' aspect!

How's an article for ATG coming along - this is a great tale, and the chips in from others (especially Norberts' take on the cafe racer) are really good! Keep up the posts please everyone - it's fun :D

Good riding,

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Re: 1977 3.5 Sport Restoration

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corsaro chris wrote:Ah - the question of 'originality'.... quite suitable for my 700th post on this Forum, possibly.

As far as I can tell the 'bike's seat in the black and white picture is from a 1978 cast wheel model Sport. It would seem to show a much earlier manufactured (which is a world away from registered) Strada - no double drum so not a Sport. The round back hump seems to have run from 1974 (original wire wheel, double drum) through to the first of the cast wheel Sports in 1977. I'd guess that the Sport (colour picture) has had wire wheels retro fitted, as the side panels are 'correct' for '77 production from Italy.

This is referencing the Massimo Clarke book; others will study the 3 1/2 tome by Fabio Ferrario (available from MRC Products) if they are really keen (I almost used another word there). The round back hump is great for solo riding - and your tan leather seat looks - and will work - great for two up riding; the hump at the back will also help the 'pillion feeling secure' aspect!

How's an article for ATG coming along - this is a great tale, and the chips in from others (especially Norberts' take on the cafe racer) are really good! Keep up the posts please everyone - it's fun :D

Good riding,

CC
So it is possible that my bike was just at the changeover point and managed to get the 1977 side panels, but with wire wheels and single front brake disc as well as the later seat? It basically was a bitsa. On the point of writing an article, I am not the person to ask as English would not be my strong point. That said I am happy for someone to take the content and make a story for the magazine to help out.
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Re: 1977 3.5 Sport Restoration

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My 79 (? W reg) Sport had the latter seat. So probably what fell to Luigi's hand when he reached inside the seat bin on that day! :)
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Re: 1977 3.5 Sport Restoration

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MickeyMoto wrote:My 79 (? W reg) Sport had the latter seat. So probably what fell to Luigi's hand when he reached inside the seat bin on that day! :)
That's probably the after-lunch version ;)

This is the one from 10 'o clock:
http://www.bsdninjas.co.uk/scratch/morini_sport.jpg
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I think that the seat of the black and white foto maybe from a 78/79 Sport and was also used for the K from 79-80. The K of 81 seat is diferent. That´s what Ferrari tells in his book (well to be honest I only can look at the pictures, without understanding the writig :oops: Anyhow it´s for me the best book of all to see the developement of the Tremezzo. Since I have it, I know that Rocinante, originaly a K from ´81 is the 7.serie of the Sport :shock: )

It looks like that in the very beginning of the wire-wheel-sport with discs (end of 75 -77) they put on the old classic sport seat. But most of them have had a diferent 1 1/2 seat that is none of the fotos above.

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I think that the seat of the black and white foto maybe from a 78/79 Sport and was also used for the K from 79-80. The K of 81 seat is diferent. That´s what Ferrari tells in his book (well to be honest I only can look at the pictures, without understanding the writig :oops: Anyhow it´s for me the best book of all to see the developement of the Tremezzo. Since I have it, I know that Rocinante, originaly a K from ´81 is the 7.serie of the Sport :shock: )

It looks like that in the very beginning of the wire-wheel-sport with discs (end of 75 -77) they put on the old classic sport seat. But most of them have had a diferent 1 1/2 seat that is none of the fotos above. It´s the 10 o clock version!

ciao norbert
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Re: 1977 3.5 Sport Restoration

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This could be the 10 o'clock version. I've just got it from Wolfgang Tritsch in Germany and it was made by Nisa, so it's sort of an original, although it's new, if that makes sense. There is a picture of this bike in the Mick Walker book and it has the same style of seat, so that's almost certainly what it came out of the factory with.

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Re: 1977 3.5 Sport Restoration

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That is a great picture of a very clean and new looking Sport. It is becoming evident that just like Italian cars, Italian bikes were built to the 'whats in the store today' specification. I have also noticed that the tank on my bike does not have the ridge up the middle which other 1977 Sport's appear to have so I guess a lot of parts were running low/out and being superseded just at the point where my bike was assembled.

Either way its all good and I guess makes it unique, just like every human being in the world :roll:
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Re: 1977 3.5 Sport Restoration

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Paz,
Could you tell us what medium you used in your Ultrasonic cleaner for those carbs? They look much better than the results I have been getting from my cleaner.
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Re: 1977 3.5 Sport Restoration

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sheddweller wrote:Paz,
Could you tell us what medium you used in your Ultrasonic cleaner for those carbs? They look much better than the results I have been getting from my cleaner.
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Yes, very fortunately one of the best dealers for this is based in Northern Ireland and was able to ship to me same day. I purchased the following from Mistral Chemicals,

http://mistralie.co.uk/products/ultraso ... hine-parts

I also got this but did not need to use it as the first prodct the job perfectly well
http://mistralie.co.uk/products/ultraso ... de-removal

They were inexpensive, helpful and delivered very fast.
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