There's loads of lookey likey fiamm horns on evilbay
Which one do I need, anyone knows?
Cheers Paul
Sorry 1975 350 sport.
Original horn
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Morini Jen
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Hello Paul.
Welcome to the Forum.
I'm 99% sure that it should be the same as the one in the first picture below. Obviously you'll need to check it's a left hand one and 12 volts.
The second picture is of the horn on my 1983 Sport K1. Mine doesn't have the chrome grill on the front and I'm not sure if it left the factory like that. Still, the writing on the side is the same, and it reads...
Tipo CTP
E2 838 e2
CH 5 0602 01
A 7341
MADE IN ITALY . MOD . DEPOSITATO
Do you have a parts book? There is a specific mounting bracket, part number 15.06.15
Good luck.
Jenny.
Welcome to the Forum.
I'm 99% sure that it should be the same as the one in the first picture below. Obviously you'll need to check it's a left hand one and 12 volts.
The second picture is of the horn on my 1983 Sport K1. Mine doesn't have the chrome grill on the front and I'm not sure if it left the factory like that. Still, the writing on the side is the same, and it reads...
Tipo CTP
E2 838 e2
CH 5 0602 01
A 7341
MADE IN ITALY . MOD . DEPOSITATO
Do you have a parts book? There is a specific mounting bracket, part number 15.06.15
Good luck.
Jenny.
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Cheers Jen...Will see if I can match it up.
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Jen, what’s the interesting bike in the background ?
Steve.
Steve.
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Morini Jen
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Well spotted, Steve.
It's not my bike, it belongs to my friend Geoff. It's a 1946 Panther Model 70 350cc with a four speed foot change gearbox. It is quite a rare bike. Geoff is a serial collector of Panthers of all sizes. Last April he bought a 250cc Red Panther and the seller insisted that he also took a second Red Panther project bike as part of the deal, so Geoff ended up with eleven Panthers in his garage and no room to move. He kindly asked me if I would take the Model 70 and keep it up and running for him while he sorted his workspace out? I didn't need asking twice. I've done about 1200 miles on it since then on VMCC runs and some local back lane bimbling.
It's no Morini but it is still good fun to ride on the right roads. It vibrates a fair bit at higher revs and although it'll go over 50mph it is most comfortable around 35-40mph. There is a knack to starting it, which took me several weeks to get the hang of. It handles o.k. but I check the tyre pressures before each excursion as they are quite critical. I've found that 20psi front and 22psi rear works best. The front brake is utterly feeble but the rear one is fine. It's best to keep a good margin behind other vehicles and definitely worth standing on the footpegs if you're heading for a pothole. Another thing I have found is that modern car drivers haven't got a clue about the limitations of classic motorcycles and pay scant attention to hand signals. The last time I rode the bike was on a Boxing Day VMCC run so I'm looking forward to the warmer weather... Geoff won't be asking for his bike back anytime soon....
The picture below was taken on a sightseeing tour of Shard End, Birmingham, last October.
It's not my bike, it belongs to my friend Geoff. It's a 1946 Panther Model 70 350cc with a four speed foot change gearbox. It is quite a rare bike. Geoff is a serial collector of Panthers of all sizes. Last April he bought a 250cc Red Panther and the seller insisted that he also took a second Red Panther project bike as part of the deal, so Geoff ended up with eleven Panthers in his garage and no room to move. He kindly asked me if I would take the Model 70 and keep it up and running for him while he sorted his workspace out? I didn't need asking twice. I've done about 1200 miles on it since then on VMCC runs and some local back lane bimbling.
It's no Morini but it is still good fun to ride on the right roads. It vibrates a fair bit at higher revs and although it'll go over 50mph it is most comfortable around 35-40mph. There is a knack to starting it, which took me several weeks to get the hang of. It handles o.k. but I check the tyre pressures before each excursion as they are quite critical. I've found that 20psi front and 22psi rear works best. The front brake is utterly feeble but the rear one is fine. It's best to keep a good margin behind other vehicles and definitely worth standing on the footpegs if you're heading for a pothole. Another thing I have found is that modern car drivers haven't got a clue about the limitations of classic motorcycles and pay scant attention to hand signals. The last time I rode the bike was on a Boxing Day VMCC run so I'm looking forward to the warmer weather... Geoff won't be asking for his bike back anytime soon....
The picture below was taken on a sightseeing tour of Shard End, Birmingham, last October.
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Very interesting. Is your friend in the Panther Owners Club ? A chap I know had owners rallies in his back garden in Knighton, Powis, until ill health prevented it recently.
Steve.
Steve.
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Always fancied one of the Panther M100's - the 600 single, the nearest I got was my 500 Enfield Bullet with a 612 conversion, that was fun !
Back to the horn, my 3 1/2 has a Stebel TM80 Magnum fitted ot it by the PO.
Bit larger than the stock horn, but probably a bit louder.
Back to the horn, my 3 1/2 has a Stebel TM80 Magnum fitted ot it by the PO.
Bit larger than the stock horn, but probably a bit louder.
Current bikes: Kawasaki KH400, Royal Enfield Himalayan, 1200 Triumph Speedmaster, Morini Strada 3 1/2
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Yes, Geoff is certainly in the Panther Owners Club and probably has been for many years. I don't know if he ever went to your friend's rally in Knighton.
I had a 535 Bullet for about six years and I'd say that performance wise it was similar to a Panther M100, but a 612 Bullet would leave it standing.
Pictured below is Geoff (in the hi-viz) and his tele-rigid 600cc Panther M100 which I think is from 1951. He kindly let me ride it a couple of years ago when we did a club run from Birmingham to a Motor Museum at Calne in Wiltshire. The M100 was a delight to ride although there were a couple of stumbling blocks for me. A) I didn't have the strength to heave it onto the rear stand, and B) I didn't have enough 'oomph' to kickstart it, even with the half compression lever in position. Once rolling though, it was great, and once on the quiet lanes it would bop along at low revs and it felt as though I could go round the world at 40mph.
If you find yourself with some spare time, and if you enjoy 'Slow TV', I would heartily recommend any of the You Tube films made by JJ of the Panther Owners Club, such as this one...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cV8e4NlyHoM
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That Panther is gorgeous - thanks for the link I will take a look.
My 612 Bullet was surprisingly quick and fast, really enjoyed it while I had it.
Really looking forward to getting the 3 1/2 out this Spring as I bought it late last year so not had much chance to put any miles on it.
I bought it because I always fancied one, and they seem to have a good reputation.
My 612 Bullet was surprisingly quick and fast, really enjoyed it while I had it.
Really looking forward to getting the 3 1/2 out this Spring as I bought it late last year so not had much chance to put any miles on it.
I bought it because I always fancied one, and they seem to have a good reputation.
Current bikes: Kawasaki KH400, Royal Enfield Himalayan, 1200 Triumph Speedmaster, Morini Strada 3 1/2
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Roll on Spring... I'm sure you won't be dissapointed. Looking at your current stable, the Kawasaki KH400 was a bike I always fancied the look of. It would be interesting to hear your opinions when you get the chance to compare the two. I can guarantee the handling will be a revelation.
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The few short miles I have done on the 3 1/2 have been enjoyable and were "shakedown" rides after fettling it / adjusting things.
I need to get a few hundred under my belt on it before I know whether I am happy with it or not, pretty convinced I will be given what everyone says.
I will post up a comparison later this year for anyone interested.
On paper the KH is both quicker and faster, had the bike a few years restored it from a non runner - trouble is that it lead a hard life before I got my hands on it.
Did another engine rebuild this year, last years rebuild was to sort the bottom end, this years to fix the slipping clutch and whining gearbox - checkout my ride on the bike last year https://youtu.be/7jKCStCToak?si=dF7YJzGu7FjuwXWp you can hear the whining box and slipping clutch.
The KH is a nice light bike and when they are on song Kawa Triples are lovely bikes - come for a virtual ride on my KH 500 https://youtu.be/JrXYJFz2T9Q?si=F2DKZsNeM6g9olKo, or a brief ride on my H2 (Apologies for the swearing if you watch the whole video) https://youtu.be/p8ikzd2mceM?si=rvHrixeS2FKbyghP
Apologies for posting lots of non Morini stuff.........
I need to get a few hundred under my belt on it before I know whether I am happy with it or not, pretty convinced I will be given what everyone says.
I will post up a comparison later this year for anyone interested.
On paper the KH is both quicker and faster, had the bike a few years restored it from a non runner - trouble is that it lead a hard life before I got my hands on it.
Did another engine rebuild this year, last years rebuild was to sort the bottom end, this years to fix the slipping clutch and whining gearbox - checkout my ride on the bike last year https://youtu.be/7jKCStCToak?si=dF7YJzGu7FjuwXWp you can hear the whining box and slipping clutch.
The KH is a nice light bike and when they are on song Kawa Triples are lovely bikes - come for a virtual ride on my KH 500 https://youtu.be/JrXYJFz2T9Q?si=F2DKZsNeM6g9olKo, or a brief ride on my H2 (Apologies for the swearing if you watch the whole video) https://youtu.be/p8ikzd2mceM?si=rvHrixeS2FKbyghP
Apologies for posting lots of non Morini stuff.........
Current bikes: Kawasaki KH400, Royal Enfield Himalayan, 1200 Triumph Speedmaster, Morini Strada 3 1/2