Eyes Wide Open

Anything to do with the 1200 Corsaro series
Huey
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Eyes Wide Open

Post by Huey »

OK, so I'm looking at buying a 2007 Corsaro, beautiful bike but I'm sure I don't have to tell you guys that...
I've done my due diligence & read just about everything (in English) that I can find on the net. Things like the 2008 upgrades i.e. earth wire to radiator & larger terminal under seat from the alternater as well as Twisty's suggested fix for the radiator hose (very ingenious) & the suggestion of the fan on the regulator (very important I think as it gets very hot here) these fixes (if haven't already been done) I think are within my capability. What I can't do is make filters...???
I read somewhere that the air filter can be washed, is that correct?
Now to the really curly one, oil & fuel filters, this one is a real deal breaker, I have not been able to confirm anywhere that these parts are available. Without an on going supply of these essential items, I really don't think I can proceed. Can anyone confirm that these are available & give me the part number, manufactures name etc so I can make sure I can purchase them in Australia...????

Other issues that seemed to pop up a lot in the forums were problems with relay switches, but these seemed to be more to do with incorrect diagnostics, is that correct or are there problems with the relays?
Another issue about ECU & fueling problems seemed to be brought on by people tinkering with their bikes, changing exhausts, fitting PC, or changing the fuel mapping. I suspect if the bike is left stock standard there isn't any problem with the ECU, would that be a reasonable assumption...???

Anyway, thank you for reading my blog, if anyone can provide any further advise, knowledge or details on other issues I should be looking out for, I would very much appreciate it.
Safe & happy riding.....
Cheers...!!!
PS My current ride is a 2008 Moto Guzzi Griso 1200 8v, so I'm used to problems.....
twisty
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Post by twisty »

on the subject of oil filters. If the worst came to the worst there are companies that do make stainless steel micro mesh filters, such as

http://www.scottsperformance.com/produc ... PartType=3
I'll send an email to them and see what they say?


but i'm sure it's only a matter of time before someone breaks open a cannister type filter to find the internal paper element is the same.

The trouble is that online most oil filters are shown without dimensions.

So if a company was willing to copy one from a new standard oil filter i'm sure the costs could be split ( :? ) with others looking for filters. Some folk say that the micron sizes in these are not small enough , but i'm not an expert.

also check out this site. It shows cannister filters cut open to reveal the inside gubbins and gives approx sizes. useful if even just to see how they are made.

http://www.knizefamily.net/minimopar/oi ... rence.html
Huey
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Post by Huey »

Thanks Twisty,
I'd really appreciate any assistance I can get. Do you think Scotts Performance would supply to Australia?
Can you help with any of my other questions?
The bike has less then 500km on the clock & as far as I know has never been registered, I suspect it has had none of the updates done & is being sold without a warranty. Am I mad...???
twisty
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Post by twisty »

Mad ,

Yes

But if the bike is cheap enough and your in luv :wink: with it ,you'll probably regret not buying it when some other sod gets it.
Have you ridden one yet :?:
Huey
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Post by Huey »

Hi Twisty,
I agree exactly with what you are saying, but I also don't want it to be in the garage all the time being repaired or waiting for parts..... No I haven't riden one yet, there's not that many around over here in Australia, which is another negative re spare parts etc. As I mentioned before I currently ride a Moto Guzzi Griso 1200 8v, I know it's heavier & only 100HP, so I expect the Corsaro to be quite brilliant....????
Would really appreciate if you could have another read of my first blog & assist me with some of my other questions.
Many thanks...
Cheers.
AusVeloce
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Post by AusVeloce »

Hi all,

I have been able to get Veloce oil filters from Haldane Cycles in NZ although I haven't tried for a fuel filter yet.

http://www.haldanes.co.nz/

Regards
twisty
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Re: Eyes Wide Open

Post by twisty »

Huey wrote:Hi Twisty,
I agree exactly with what you are saying, but I also don't want it to be in the garage all the time being repaired or waiting for parts..... No I haven't riden one yet, there's not that many around over here in Australia, which is another negative re spare parts etc. As I mentioned before I currently ride a Moto Guzzi Griso 1200 8v, I know it's heavier & only 100HP, so I expect the Corsaro to be quite brilliant....????
Would really appreciate if you could have another read of my first blog & assist me with some of my other questions.
Many thanks...
Cheers.
I can't comment on the fuelling issues as i've not had any. I found it can be a scratcher if you want it to be, but limited by the windblast as the flyscreen is too close to the rider to provide any protection.(over 90mph.) It is possible to fit a screen to allow touring, if you don't mind spoiling the looks. A palmer products universal adjustable screen kit, fits the bikini fairing along with a buell uly screen or one of palmers own products.

Tons of torque everywhere and makes a surprisingly good tourer. Lovely exhaust burble even on the standard cans.

The relays positioned beneath the headlight are too exposed and just need some vaseline to waterproof.The standard indicators let water in along the stems and the connectors corrode inside.

Personally speaking i wouldn't say its the best handling bike i've owned,but through time i'll work on that , but it has bags of character and always brings a smile to your face .

I reckon it's too twitchy flat,flat out (shake the bars and wiggle in the seat at high speed , and if you are not of an age when bikes routinely felt as if they were hinged in the middle you may have brown pants) and needs a steering damper(probably my tyres need changed), but i think thats due to my bike being a standard with the basic suspension (veloce is better from what i've read.) I've ridden slower bikes faster and with more confidence due to the crap front end setup on the standard bike.
I think a set of progressive springs on the standard model would help. It just depends on how you ride.

Take the engine,frame and cosmetic parts such as tank etc away and its just a bog standard parts bin bike , so wheel bearings , forks,coils , switches , relays ,rectifiers are just bog standard. I come from a wet damp climate and its been in pissing damp weather most of the time and never had any real issues. A lot of the switch gear,relays is common to benelli trek and i think the rear suspension linkage looks the same .(need to compare with that one)

Service wise , i supppose the problem is the latest updates for the ecu. If you are not near a dealer i wonder if it's possible to flash the ecu by sending it to them to update :?: or whether it needs to be connected to the bike, for this i don't know. I noticed the ecu for the moto guzzi breva looked the same (obviously software within is different ) i haven't studied the pics below to check the pin configuration , but only mention it as its obviously another parts bin part.
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Servicing wise, it's shims. Availability , i don't know.
Once you start looking closely at the bike its not that difficult to work on , but i suspect a power commander is required if you are not near a dealer in order to reset the tps. (according to others and in the manual , removing of the ecu requires a reset)

With dealer's in europe helpful, you are not stuck with just UK for parts. Its the kind of bike i'd buy to keep, me i fancy a granpasso to add to the stable.

Parts are becoming available secondhand but you may be stuck with a bike which although brilliant to a believer, may be difficult to punt on if you get fed up with it. Since the factory is belly up , don't pay over the odds.
If your heart rules your head, which is usually the case with bikes, you'll love it.
If it's your wallet you are thinking of , then it's you take your chance.

Just remember most folk on the forum use it for problem solving, so it's not negative all the time and it is a lovely bike. I'd love it in my living room as a work of art, but the other half thinks the wall might not take the weight. :mrgreen:
Huey
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Re: Eyes Wide Open

Post by Huey »

Hi Twisty,
Can't thank you enough for all your help, you have put an enormous amount of effort & research into all your replies, thanks...!!!
I've made an offer on the bike, so I'm just waiting now to see what they come back with...?????
Hopefully next time I come on the forum, I'll be a fully fledged Moto Morini Corsaro owner, that would be cool...
Cheers
AusVeloce
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Post by AusVeloce »

Good luck with the offer. You won't be disappointed. Which part of Aus are you from? Would be great to catch up with another MM Corsaro owner as they are a little scarce here.
Huey
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Post by Huey »

I'm in Brisbane, how about you?
Very disappointing, no news on my offer yet... in fact no reply at all.... which gives me nothing to work with, I can't keep chasing him up or he'll think I'm too keen ?????
AusVeloce
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Post by AusVeloce »

I'm in Maitland (near Newcastle) in NSW.
Huey
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Re: Eyes Wide Open

Post by Huey »

Hi AusVeloce,
Still no news on my offer.....
Yes I know Maitland, I used to live in Sydney & have a brother in Armidale, so I travelled through there many times.
Not very optimistic about my offer now....???
Cheers
rod100
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Post by rod100 »

When thinking of buying, there's that "would I then ever be able to sell?" question at the back of the mind. OK we will all keep them for ever - but it might be interesting to know the Corsaros are much sought after (I am told by dealer) in Germany. Well, they always were petrol heads.
GAVIN09
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Post by GAVIN09 »

AusVeloce wrote:Hi all,

I have been able to get Veloce oil filters from Haldane Cycles in NZ although I haven't tried for a fuel filter yet.

http://www.haldanes.co.nz/

Regards
Hi
Thanks for tip. Picked up oil & fuel filters last W/E.
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corsaro chris
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Re: Eyes Wide Open

Post by corsaro chris »

All;
rod100 wrote:When thinking of buying, there's that "would I then ever be able to sell?" question at the back of the mind. OK we will all keep them for ever - but it might be interesting to know the Corsaros are much sought after (I am told by dealer) in Germany. Well, they always were petrol heads.
German market was always very good for Morini - and up until the 'troubles' they had over 30 dealers across the country with more in Austria. They loved the Corsaro and also the 'Passo - so a resale there would make sense.

As long as there are spares available it should be possible to sell your bike on for a reasonable price, but you might need some patience. At the SW Classic Show in the UK over the w/e some-one was after a 9.5, the most unloved of modern Morini, or a Sport and had been looking - without success - for a year. And the Corsaro is just such a better bike...

I had heard that the problems with the filter was that the manufacturer was tied to a contract with the Factory, and as long as that legal entity remained could not supply alternative sources. This could just be gossip, but supporting a volume source is better for the future rather than a whole set of one-offs. Time will tell, but using the bike and spares is one way of creating demand ~ and its what they were designed for :)

CC
"I'll use the Morini"
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