Project Kanguro Supermoto!

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Postby huub » 05 Aug 2006 09:01

Hi robin,

nice progres, i am impressed.
i've got a small workshop with a lathe and milling machine, i am amazed by the fabrication you manage with hand tools.

how does the suspension feel? the SV650 is a bit heavier than the kanguro.

cheers,
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Postby robinh44 » 05 Aug 2006 10:07

Hubert

Thanks for the comments, your setup with the lathe and milling machine sounds great. Also a pillar drill would have save a lot of time and cursing drilling the larger holes, particularly in stainless steel ( which gets very hot if not cooled and then hardens itself!! and blunts your drills).
Regarding the SV suspension initial impressions are that it is quite a stiff shock, which is not suprising as the SV is a sports bike and heavy. I re-designed the top shock mount at the 11th hour to have sliding top mount, this will allow for the fitting of a different shock. I like the look of the KTM white power type unit as they have full adjustment.
Cheers for now, off to finish the welding. Then do some routine maintenance on my Yamaha XT225 ready for work next week.

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Re: Project Kanguro Supermoto!

Postby julianharty » 02 May 2020 12:05

Robin, photobucket has swallowed all your images, if you still have the photos I'd love to see them. If the filesizes are small you can add them directly to the post in the forum, otherwise whatever works for you e.g. email.

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Re: Project Kanguro Supermoto!

Postby robinh44 » 03 May 2020 21:14

Hi Julian,

Yes photobucket changed their business model over the years and my piccies have gone. Tried with google pics this time. I still have the bike, shed built, needs some work on the ignition. Planning to move back from NLM ignition to original morini ignition when I can get hold of a working set. Some pictures below from original bike thru project to present day, are you planning to get or convert your morini?

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Re: Project Kanguro Supermoto!

Postby 72degrees » 04 May 2020 06:55

I think you may need to make the folder or individual images 'PUBLIC' on Google for others to see them here.
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Re: Project Kanguro Supermoto!

Postby robinh44 » 04 May 2020 07:40

Hi,

Thanks I will look into it, I have set folder as shared, but will chk.

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Re: Project Kanguro Supermoto!

Postby julianharty » 04 May 2020 08:25

Robin,
For the moment I'm working to getting my bike in running and roadworthy order. It's proving to be quite a project just getting to that point. For instance this weekend I discovered first one fracture on the RH downtube loop (immediately below and roughly across from the swinging arm mount area, below the small lug for the rear brake cable outer). On welding this up (more details shortly in a separate forum post) I discovered a smaller similar fracture just above the small lug. As I'll explain in my post later I'm pretty happy with the repairs, now I've got to decide whether to have the frame professionally painted, or to paint it for now and wait until I've tested the bike before spending the money on paint.

PS: The photo links from Google (or wherever) still show as large monochrome 'no entry' icons. As a tip, if you're savvy with your computer, try the links in a 'private' or 'incognito' browser window on your computer, or from someone else's computer that isn't automatically logged into your Google account. I look forward to seeing the photos.
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Re: Project Kanguro Supermoto!

Postby robinh44 » 04 May 2020 08:54

Hi Julian,

Yes working on getting the pics working, good tip for testing.

Regarding frame fractures very common on the X1 Kanguro not sure which one you have, mine had fractures on both sides just below the pillion plate, when cornering I used to hear a grating sound this was the frame gap opening and closing!!. I made up a saddle piece from box section steel to straddle the fracture with some overlap and welded all around this piece. The danger is if you do not use a long enough piece the fracture moves to the end of your repair. Mine has been intact for 5 years plus now.

I will try and get pictures up by end of day.

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Re: Project Kanguro Supermoto!

Postby robinh44 » 04 May 2020 09:50

Hi Julian,

Piccy test take 2:-

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Hope this worked.

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Re: Project Kanguro Supermoto!

Postby julianharty » 04 May 2020 19:10

Robin,
Yes, the photos are now visible, and I so pleased that I've now found who created this bike as I've seen some other low-resolution photos on the web somewhere of it in various guises. I'd also appreciate higher-resolution photos of the current collage Image if that's practical.

And once the lockdown is over, I'd love to visit and see the bike properly. Who knows, I might even be able to ride my more modest Kanguro down by then?

Also, you probably don't realise you've also helped me understand more about the differences in the frames between the X and X1 bikes. I've noticed on your original bike photo how there's an additional gusset that runs roughly from near the rider's footpeg mount to the bottom of the pillion footrest section. If you have photos of the left side of the original bike showing the side-stand mount and the frame around the swinging arm mount that'd be very helpful in enabling me to decide on how to strengthen my X frame further.

As a perhaps separate topic, I'm in correspondence with someone in Italy who's done a great deal of work designing improved airboxes for his 3 customised Morinis and with someone here in the UK. If you're interested then I'll keep you posted on that work - I'm looking to improve the air intake of my 501 engined K1 bike and something similar might also suit your bike?

Ciao and thank you again for your photos.

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Re: Project Kanguro Supermoto!

Postby julianharty » 05 May 2020 06:25

PS: what are your current choice of carbs on the bike? in the last of your photos they look as if they're some sort of CV carbs...
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Re: Project Kanguro Supermoto!

Postby robinh44 » 05 May 2020 09:56

Hi Julian,

Glad the pics worked and are useful. I did most of that work back in 2006-2007 during the main build. I was fortunate to speak to veteran of Kanguros now sadly deceased Ken 'ner-a-car'. He famously rode one of the first imported Kanguros and there is a famous picture (I will sort out a copy for you) of him jumping it. He warned me about the frame on the early versions. So when I ground off all the pillion plate work (from what I remember this was not welded the whole length just tacked) I fabricated a replacement piece and welded the whole length of this. The new crack started just below where my new plate finished? so now the box section saddle has this under control.

I will pm you links to better quality pictures and more detail of the other frame side. Look forward to meeting up when we can, where in the UK are you I am in Suffolk.

Carbs, I am currently running a pair of Micarbs the are called UCAL BS29 (Mikunis made under license in India). They are fitted to Royal Enfields and I am using the jetting based on a Bajaj 180cc and they seem to work quite well. Unfortunately just as I was getting them dialled in my NLM ignition start playing up on the rear cylinder so I am looking at either getting original ignition if available or will bite the bullet and fit the Sachse system.

Ok well stay in contact and I will pm you some links to more piccies.

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