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tried-them-all
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OK, the strada engine is in the kanguro frame and running! I wish I done this 20 years ago, the first ride was very promising...what have i been missing?

The first problem is the chain run - the chain is rubbing on the swing arm top and bottom, suggesting the shock maybe too long... anybody care to give me a shock length for the X1? ** I just did a measure of the kanga and 501 shocks - and they are both 420mm, so there's my clearance problem! I have a shock from my r80g/s that is about 360mm and the only mono shock to hand, so that will get put in tomorrow to see how the chain clearance improves... ****


I need new chain roller and swing arm protectors which I may be able to get from the USA - anyone used other make parts?

Also, the right side crankcase has locating dowels on 2 bolt holes, presumably for the electric start sidecover to lock into. I need to remove them to use the kanguro right side cover. Are they easy to remove? - my first attempt has failed - before I get to the point where I have to pull parts off to get purchase on the little buggers I'd like to get some advice....

The flywheel/stator/cover was missing so I didn't see the dowels, however does an electric start 350 help date the engine?

Lastly, has anyone got a pic/measurement of the muffler support bracket that is under the right side cover. It looks like I can make a flat strap to do the job?

thanks, Phii in Oz.
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there is a big topic on X1 shock length: viewtopic.php?f=8&t=3001
tried-them-all
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yes there is, but it doesn't tell me the original X1 shock length (unless it is 13.5 inches as first stated - seems too short) or indeed the shock travel, both of which would be helpful when finding a replacement....
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390mm is what the X and X1 had, then 410 and 420 on X2 and X3.
The extra few mm makes a massive difference in seat height and was a popular 'jack up' option in the olden days when we were younger and could lift a leg that far.
Hagon and YSS are options and are also mentioned in various topics here. When I was in India last time I met an Aussie called David Burnett who is in the suspension biz in a big way. His riding mates said he was one of the best in Oz. Even when he wasn't in earshot! He recently moved house to Tasmania but I think his business still operates. Maybe he or another suspension supplier on your island could help out?
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Those dowels usually come out when you don't want them to, but yes they should be a firm fit in the crankcase. A bit of heat from a hot-airgun should help but obviously they may get mullered if really tight.
Chain rollers are something I've yet to find an easy supply of, at least that don't make a loud whirring noise, and with a 10mm ID. There are lots listed in MX bike shops.
The swingarm pivot had a nylon pad as a protector. I have a complete undamaged one but it is very old and too brittle to use. I'm keeping as a pattern till I find someone willing to 3D print them. Lots of peoplt get a block of suitable modern nylon and cut their own out.
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thanks steve

I put in the bmw shock for a laugh - at least I can get both feet on the ground! Someone has put in the longer 420mm shock and welded pads on the bottom of the centre stand, and made a longer/stronger side stand - all good mods I suppose, but I have the 501 as my tall morini and would prefer to have a lower 350.

Does the X1 have a square tube centre stand, or what is the distance from the bottom of the leg to pivot bolt? I need to ask for a front fork length as well just to see if that has been substituted along the way.

I'll get a chain protector from Hermy's as I have nothing on any of the bikes. The chain rollers (both kanga and camel) broke up as soon as chain pressure was applied! - but I'll be able to make replacements if a skateboard wheel doesn't work...
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https://www.morinispecial.it/79-gini/17 ... i-eng.html

Gini has some tensioners here that you might want to look into.

BTW, US post is so terrible to NZ at the minute I'm ordering everything I need from the UK. I hope Australia is better!
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thanks dom

post from USA is slow to us too, but I just got some parts from India in 15 days! I sold a previous 501 camel to NZ in 2006, I hope you didn't end up with it?!
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Ha, no - but I possibly know who did!
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